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I just watched the 1931 Dracula movie for the first time, and it was a somewhat surreal experience, in that it's ingrained enough in pop culture -- that I've seen enough sendups and homages and parodies -- that I really felt as if I'd already seen it, most of the way through.*

I've been trying to catch up on a lot of ~classic~ type stuff that I've managed to avoid seeing -- I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey a little while ago, and that's the type of science fiction I can get behind. (It also had strange moments of pop culture synthesis.) I know I say that I don't do too much sci-fi, but if anyone wants to recommend me something along the lines of 2001/Moon/Firefly/Donnie Darko, I totally promise to check it out. I... do not love Star Trek? (I know, I know, bad fangirl).

VVC happened, and it was awesome! I never feel right about writing up a con report because my short term recall and concentration are for shit, and I am terrified I would miss mentioning someone/something awesome, and ~slight~ then. Because everyone is so super awesome. And it was super awesome to get to see them! Even if my current hair colour apparently gave me camouflage powers. I am, however, super grateful that my school waited until Monday morning to give me the phone call of (further) bullshit, as that would have kind of ruined VVC, if they'd called on Friday.

I will say though ~~that rhoboatwas kidnapped into doing a panel with me~~ that

rhoboat and I did a panel/vidshow on instrumental vidding, and it was pretty awesome. And people should totally vid more instrumentals, because instrumentals are awesome.

Awesome. Awesome. I think I've finally depleted the power of the word!

* Furthermore, I have ALL THE WORST IDEAS, and I'm not convinced that there should be a YA novel/series of novels where the ~twist~ (or premise) is that the kick-butt (but conflicted) protagonist is actually Lucy Westen/Westenra. In no way am I considering outlining this. In no way.

* At the request of

deathisyourart, other horrible ideas I have: vidding the works of Georges Melies to video game inspired music; vidding 130s-1960s b-movies to techno; Korra to a "Paradise City" mashup; an Avatar/Korra bending battle to "Party Rock Anthem"; Futurama to polka; caper/heist movies to "Can't Touch This"; that fic where Tony Stark is part Veela.

Then again, that list should probably include vidding Iron Man to a mashup of Rihanna and Papa Roach, because literally every single person I had listen to that song didn't think it was going to work -- though some were more political about it than others. MADE IT WORK. \o/

Also, there is now a fantastic Adele cover in the comments called "Rolling in the Higgs" and it is ALSO AWESOME.

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I am totally vidding more instrumentals :) At least if I can find the ones I neeeeeed...It was great to see you again!

You've seen Battlestar Galactica right? Maybe you'd like Fringe? I also have a sci-fi gap.

Are you on GChat? If you give me an idea what kind of a ~feel~ you're going for, I might be able to nudge you in the general direction!

I have seen Fringe! I've vidded it, actually. Once I got over the first season where I kept crying about THAT IS NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS NO STOP WALTER NO. I'm super behind, though.

I just... main watch/read SF with direction, because it's not my thing. Which being in fandom makes me feel bad for a lot of the time.

But do you have all the worst ideas for vids, and if so, why are you not telling me ALL ABOUT THEM?????

Well, at your request, some more of those have been edited into the post. They mostly include things that are a real head scratcher, like vidding the works of Georges Melies to video game inspired music; vidding 130s-1960s b-movies to techno; Korra to a "Paradise City" mashup; an Avatar/Korra bending battle to "Party Rock Anthem"; Futurama to polka; caper/heist movies to "Can't Touch This"; that fic where Tony Stark is part Veela.

But, hey, no one thought that the mashup I chose for my Iron Man vid was going to work, and I MADE IT WORK. \o/ \o/

HAHAHAHAHA I kind of adore your brain! Also, and this is just my own observation, but I think it is good to tell people that their ideas won't work every now and then; makes them work harder to prove people wrong, and the results are often very good.

I showed GATTACA to my mom recently, and was thinking that I had not seen a movie recently that handled sci-fi as elegantly. So I'll be checking back here to see what people suggest to you.

Does that mean you've come around on my Iron Man mashup then, hrrrmmmmm?

I haven't seen Gattaca! You'd recommend it, then?

(Please tell me that the title is pulled from guanine/adenine/thymine/cytosine.)

I haven't watched all the VVC vids yet, I've been in a weird headspace lately and the vids deserve a fair viewing. In a week or two I'll be able to give you a proper answer.

I WOULD RECOMMEND GATTACA VERY STRONGLY!!! Understated, low budget Sci-Fi from the 90's that should be in EVERYONE'S collection!

(Please tell me that the title is pulled from guanine/adenine/thymine/cytosine.)
IT IS!!!!

Awww, I was just bugging you. I don't actually expect you to have watched ALL the vids. Nor to necessarily come around on it!

(Please tell me that the title is pulled from guanine/adenine/thymine/cytosine.)
IT IS!!!!

SOLD.

BY THE WAY. HAVE YOU SEEN THIS:

I have seen it now. It is cute, but he should have asked a friend to sing it; the high notes were kind of painful. LOL!

Well, I think it was AWESOME. :p

(We could have had a model!)

So, pursuant to our conversation last night,

jetpack_monkey is kind of a horror movie guru and he gave me some werewolf movie recs here (http://cherryice.livejournal.com/276627.html?thread=2089363#t2089363).

Thank you! :)

I studied it in year 12!

Gattaca or genetics? :D

Gattaca.

Hopefully you studied genetics as well! :p

Nope! I went all arts and humanities.

Really? I... I was just making a joke, but now I'm a little aghast. You're allowed to do that? We weren't in Canada. You could drop some stuff, but you still had serious senior science requirements.

I wasn't aware that there were school systems that didn't have any!

Note that I would also feel the same way if I were to hear about a program that didn't require, say, English. Or History.

There are a few Art focuses schools and schools for people returning to finish highschool after dropping out, that have minimal math and science requirements. We have one here in Montreal called FACE and a couple of my friends from my undergrad went to one just north of Toronto that had extremely minimal science requirements.

I guess I really shouldn't speak for all of Canada (big country!) but there are still some math and science requirements. You could pare down your maths and sciences at my high school, but you still required a certain number to graduate.

I guess I just feel that even though not even could/should/wants to be a scientist, a very basic level of scientific literacy is as important as basic level of regular literacy.

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plz to be making A:tLA and Korra vids, and to be having me beta plz! <3 (I think they sound AWESOME). Also the caper/heist movie and b-movies and WOO.

LOLOLOL first to be defending my thesis, I think.

Except vidding would be a great distraction...

(My brain is the most ridiculous place, seriously.)

ALSO. It is possible that the mid century b-movies should be to sugary pop music.

Or Ke$ha.

OH MY GOD. With all the monsters up in here, this place is about to blow. (They're taking over.)

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I also failed at writing a con report. The good news is I've never done one so really I just performed to expectations.

I liked your instrumental panel! I'm always of two minds on whether instrumentals are harder or easier than "normal" vidding; now I think it's just a different set of challenges. I've never vidded a true instrumental (O'Fortuna is the closest I've ever come but that still technically has vocals, even if I didn't treat them as lyrics). The panel gave me some interesting stuff to chew on should I ever give it a try. :)

FWIW I bought the Rude Boy Resort song choice as soon as I saw it in the program. Then again I'm quite partial to mashups in general, so.

Yeah, I've never actually managed to get a con report done either. Hurrah for consistency!

Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoyed the panel --

rhoboat and I were so pleased. Everyone pretty much covered all of our talking points for us. I agree that I don't really think instrumentals are harder or easier by nature -- though I will admit to occasionally just ignoring a lyric if I can't make it work, lalalala. Honestly though, I'd probably count something like O'Fortuna (which I don't think I've seen that one of yours, alas!), but I tend to differentiate between vocal and lyrics.

I'm glad it gave you some ~thoughts!~

FWIW I bought the Rude Boy Resort song choice as soon as I saw it in the program. Then again I'm quite partial to mashups in general, so.

That means a lot, as you handle mashups so well. :D

Yay, Dracula! Not one of my favorites. The screenwriter and cinematographer got a second pass at the same basic plot in 1932's The Mummy and it works much better.

If you want some real cultural deja vu, watch Frankenstein. It's especially weird because while the building blocks for our cultural understanding of the Frankenstein Monster are there, they have so much more depth than you'd think. Boris Karloff is, to borrow a phrase from Teen Wolf fen, a gift.

Dracula was interesting from a pop culture synthesis point of view, but I definitely thought it showed that cinematic/storytelling conventions were still developing.

I actually have Frankenstein on the four movie set I'm working through! Dracula/Frankenstein/The Bride of Frankenstein/ Creature from the Black Lagoon. I find it unfortunately hard to resist the four packs of old movies that are available these days.

I... have not seen Teen Wolf, actually. But that reminds me!

deathisyourart, who was commenting above, asked me for some old school werewolf movie recs the other day. I couldn't really help her -- I've been watching more Harryhausen giant monster stuff -- but you probably have suggestions for her!

I have seen enough Teen Wolf to know that I do not need to see more Teen Wolf. Still, the fandom has come up with some very useful short hand phrases that can be applied to other fannish pursuits.

How old school are we talking? I'll go chronologically.

The Wolf Man (1941)
Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman (1943)
Curse of the Werewolf (1961)
The Waldemar Daninsky films (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0026862/)*
The Howling (1981) -- a personal favorite
An American Werewolf in London (1981)
The Company of Wolves (1984) -- weird Red Riding Hood allegory thing
Ginger Snaps (2000)
Dog Soldiers (2002)

* This is a Spanish series starring Paul Naschy as werewolf Waldemar Daninsky. There's no continuity between the films, but they all follow Daninsky as tragic lycanthrope. They are fun, if problematic (rape is often used as shorthand to establish who the scuzzbuckets are). The series proper ended in 1983, but there have been attempts to revive the character since. No more now that Naschy is dead.

Hah, these are amongst some names I came up with for her, but she wanted something more personal than 'I heard that these are movies about werewolves.' I'll point her here, thanks!

(Also I just totally watched Frankenstein, and I think I got more cultural deja vu from Dracula, though Frankenstein was clearly the superior movie. I just... kind of kept Mel Brooks giggling every time they referred to young Frankenstein.)

I know about most of these, but I was looking for a personal recommendation -- which I see that you have given me with the Howling, so thank you! Watching Teen Wolf just put me in the mood for more werewolf movies, and though I've seen most of the recent werewolf films, I've previously stuck with mostly vampire and Jeckyl and Hyde stories when it came to older films.

Oh, those are *all* personal recommendations. I love 'em all, even the Naschy stuff, which is often hokey.

I only noted The Howling as a personal favorite because, well, I love it like pie for reasons that may be tangential to the film's actual quality.

I love it like pie for reasons that may be tangential to the film's actual quality

That right there is the reason this will be the first one that I get my hands on.

Fair enough!

Incidentally, you should let me know what you think once you have seen it.

Okay, I would watch the heck out of the Georges Melies vid. I am just saying.

Thanks! My original plan was to do it for Club Vivid at VVC so I could ease people into the idea while they were drinking heavily (I was foiled by my DVDs not arriving), but by the looks of it, I may not need to use that particular bit of trickery!

It is seriously the vid I want most to make, but it's going to take a lot of work. But I think it will be worth it!

Seconded.

Noted!

(But, seriously, it's the kind of idea that it's really great to know people are interested in. Or I'll get distracted into mid century b- and giant monster movies to Ke$ha. Because my brain HATES ME.)

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